amd cpu's

[southernpride]

what do yall think is better for overall oc'in performence
amd 64 3200 winchester core or
amd 64 3400 newcastle
both r socket 939 and may be run on the new nforce 4 board by chaintech
avalible (damn how do u spell that) here http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-049&depa=1

[southernpride]

come on now we have to have at least 1 guy who oc's on this forum

[Loofah]

if i can remember right (this is just a qreply ill get back to u later), the 64 3200 newcastle would be the better one.. if i cant remember right amd was supposed to have a new chip out soon.. cant remember if it was them or intel.. personally i would say get a intel 3.6 gHz 800 fsb w/ HT Extreme Edition.. costs a shiny pretty penny but it blows away everything.. (its been oc'd o 4.2gHz) and u probably know this but DONT WASTE CASH IF U CANT COOOOOOL IT DOWN ... sob. i learned that the hard way..

[southernpride]

intel extream edition?
i heard the athlon 64's kick its ass when oc'ed right and also the 64's got like 1000-1600fsb so the fsb on them really kick intel's ass and ya coolin is a problem but when i get it i lookin at the thermalright xp 120 i hear its the best hs for socket 939 and then just add a bis ass fan and ill be set

[MatthewPapa]

DONT WASTE CASH IF U CANT COOOOOOL IT DOWN ... sob. i learned that the hard way..
Me too man. I have about 8 or 9 HSF lying around here that dont do their job. The only one that I have found that works good is the volcano 7+.

[Loofah]

I got these specs off the intel site.. and it has a 1033 FSB just like u want. im looking for some benchmarks comparing so ill edit this in a sec


Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting Hyper-Threading Technology†

Processor NumberΔ NA
Architecture 130 nm process technology
L2 Cache 512KB
L3 Cache 2MB
Clock Speed 3.20 to 3.46 GHz
Front Side Bus 1066 MHz
Chipset Intel® 925XE Express, 925X Express, 915G Express, 915P Express, 875P, 865PE, 865G, 865GV, 848P, and E7221 chipsets
Socket mPGA478, LGA775
Intel® Desktop Boards Compatible with Intel Pentium 4 processor [PDF 91KB]
Hyper-Threading Technology† Yes

Features
Intel NetBurst® microarchitecture

[Loofah]

Source - FutureMark White Paper - "The CPU test suite is a collection of tests that are run to isolate the performance of the CPU. There are nine tests in all. Two pairs of tests are run multithreaded - each test in the pair is run in its own thread. The remaining five tests are run single threaded. These tests include such functions as file encryption, decryption, compression and decompression, grammar check, audio conversion, WMV and DivX video compression."


http://www.hothardware.com/articleimages/Item596/pcmrkcpu.png


Like i said. the p4 w/HT EE burns ALL

However. Intel is supposed to have a 3.79 gHz version of the Prescott core coming out sometime in the Feb-May of 2005 so i would suggest waiting just a lil bit

[MatthewPapa]

But doesnt that processor cost like 800$ (IIRC) as opposed to the FX which is much less?

[Loofah]

actually no. the p4 ht ee msrp's for 999 and ive seen frys sell it for 850.. the lowest ive seen the AMD FX-55 was about the same so.. u can choose

[FusionStorm]

Can you get the 4.0 Ghz P4 chip that was sold on Alienware cpu's on there too. Just to see how fast it was.

[Loofah]

well i dont believe there is a 4.0 gHz chip so therefore it mustve been an overclocked machine.. ill get the latest p4 HT ee alienware setup benchmarks

[Loofah]

well ok i've found magizine articles from mags like PCGamer but they dont post the system benchmark scores however they do talk about oc'ing the p4 ht ee to 3.8gHz.. seeing as how the standard 3.79 is going to come out i can imagine it will be able to be oc'd to 4.2 or so..
also when benchmark tests are done it usually isnt on overclocked machines.. the results u see are for an out of the box system

[MatthewPapa]

Do intel pentiums make more or less heat than athlon 64s when overcocked? I have always been under the impression athlons are made to run hot so if they get to hot no big deal and pentiums are made to run cool but if they get hot your ****. Therefore you can overclock an athlon safely more (on average) percentage wise although the starting frequency is much lower. Please tell me if I am wrong.

http://www.directron.com/p432extreme.html
http://www.directron.com/athlon64fx53r.html

[Loofah]

ok. intels run at about standard from 38 degrees celcious and with the standard fan can run up to 65 degrees celcius. the avg being about 45 degrees celcius

amds start a little lower at 34 deg cel but cant go as high temp wise at 60 deg celcius but the run cooler at avg of 40

[FusionStorm]

Could have been overclocked, but I just know that Alienware sold e'm until Intel said the overheat too much and stoped makeing them.

[southernpride]

who's that benchmark from iv seen others where fx-55 kicks intels ass outa the water anyway i have not got 800 to spend on a cpu also y i was askin about the amd 64 3200 and do yall think that the amd 64 3200 is better than a p4 ht 3ghz cause thats what i got right now and i was plannin to upgrade to the amd but if its not better than y upgrade right well cya

[Thorn]

I got these specs off the intel site.. and it has a 1033 FSB just like u want. im looking for some benchmarks comparing so ill edit this in a sec


Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting Hyper-Threading Technology†

Processor NumberΔ NA
Architecture 130 nm process technology
L2 Cache 512KB
L3 Cache 2MB
Clock Speed 3.20 to 3.46 GHz
Front Side Bus 1066 MHz
Chipset Intel® 925XE Express, 925X Express, 915G Express, 915P Express, 875P, 865PE, 865G, 865GV, 848P, and E7221 chipsets
Socket mPGA478, LGA775
Intel® Desktop Boards Compatible with Intel Pentium 4 processor [PDF 91KB]
Hyper-Threading Technology† Yes

Features
Intel NetBurst® microarchitecture
Jesus. That thing blows away the 2.80AGHz 800MHz 1meg P4 I just got.

[Loofah]

well acutally if your just a gamer then yes the amd 64 would be the better choice.. simply because its a 64 bit chip. << Thats also why it blows away the non Extreme Ed. pentiums. however.. if your like me and u need to encode dvd's or mpg's and such the pentium whoops arse.