takas request serivce

[takashi]

will fill request for:

moddels (concept art required, you UV map unless i feel like it or you request that too)
textures (UV map, moddel, and a list of prefferred colors required. formats: .cob, .3ds, anything truespace can open texture types: .tga)
logos (concept art optional, color list and mental picture prefferred)

any other stuff may need extra requirements (such as conversion and turreting)

programs i may and will use:

3dsmax 7 (NEW!)
blender 2.4 a
truespace 3.2
lithunwrap
photoshop CS 8
3d exploroer (NEW!)
moddelview
POFCS

i can only take 2 request at once. concepts only make things go faster.

[Respenus]

http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3119

I'm sorry to do this, but I just couldn't resist!

*looks into the future: Answer is NO!!!*

I'm the one of the glass-half empty kind of guy!

[takashi]

just regular art, or a moddel?

[Respenus]

just regular art, or a moddel?

For now, it's only art.

[Taristin]

/me whores.

[Respenus]

/me whores.

What did you mean?

Was it in connection with me or with takashi?

[Taristin]

Have you even checked your thread? o.'.O

[Respenus]

Have you even checked your thread? o.'.O

Dear me! I did check. You caught me off-guard! :ha:

I'll write something down!

EDIT: My topic has been edited!

[takashi]

a more detailed request, plz. just saying "come up with something for me" is kinda lazy in my mind... this is for people who cant make logos or ships.

[Respenus]

Check my thread again!

Edit: If you wish, I might give you images of other peoples work that I found soutable, if you don't get any ideas from the describtion.

[takashi]

i can moddel based on art if you would like to do a FS mod based on your book.

[Respenus]

A FS ship is not required, but if you want to go and make a model, go ahead. I wish just some art work. I'll give you something to look apon.

This ship is advanced and could only be used for the liberator which is the most advanced ship in the fleet (the Liberator is the ship that is described in my thread. Like I said, it's not really what I want, but it's close!
http://img144.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=82483_ArgonMM6_339lo.jpg

This would be an excellent battleships (just without the big frontal guns). And a BS doesn't have fighters.
http://img106.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85192_PPoseidon_510lo.jpg
http://img134.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=70810_PM2DL_122_331lo.jpg

This would also be a nice liberator class.
http://img157.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67677_Cerberus1_122_534lo.jpg

[Respenus]

This is an image of a ship from a MMORPG, a very nice model I may add.http://ogame122.de/evolution/gebaeude/207.gif
A close up http://www.ogame.org/portal/downloads/wallpapers/battleship_1280x1024.jpg

Well this is just another block of metal http://www.ogame.org/portal/downloads/wallpapers/destroyer_1280x1024.jpg

I know I'm asking too much from you, I'll most probaly limit the list. I really like the last images, as they kindda represent what I have in my mind. I might also add some Wing Commander images, but I'll have to get them first.

After seeing them all again, I do like the design of the last 2.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

How hard would it be to just reskin a GVD Hatsheput to make it look like it's made out of a bunch of old beer cans with labels?

[takashi]

easy. sadly, i have fs1. soif i have texure/skin, you can say hello to the "GVD duffbeerput"

[Taristin]

I like random blue glows.

[takashi]

whoa! keep it reasonable! i only code in DBP!

[Respenus]

whoa! keep it reasonable! i only code in DBP!

??? :confused1

[takashi]

Dark Basic Pro

[Respenus]

Dark Basic Pro

I'm not aking you to make me a HD model. :nervous:

[takashi]

can you handle 26500 polies?

[Respenus]

Don't know what that means in game, but I'm more then able to handle such a beast. If not, I'll let you know ;)

[takashi]

the current moddel is 40000 polie right now. i did the inside of the cockpit and everything.

[Taristin]

Taka... what the fuck did you model thats using 40,000 polies?!

[takashi]

whoa! easy on the language! its just made in dark basic!

did you not cacth the part in which i stated that the cockpit is actualy modeled instead of textured along with the fighter bays and such! and i should mention the 103 rotating turrets...

[Lt. Cannonfodder]

Can you post some images? 40k polys is quite a bit.

[Respenus]

I guess you'er talking about Lt. Cannonfodder's ship?

[Taristin]

whoa! easy on the language! its just made in dark basic!

Which means what? What the hell is dark basic? :wtf:



did you not cacth the part in which i stated that the cockpit is actualy modeled instead of textured along with the fighter bays and such! and i should mention the 103 rotating turrets...
Ok? A modelled cocpit can (and should for in game use) be modelled with less than 1000 polies. So... where are the other 43,000 from?!


For FS, 103 turrets is waay too many. (I would imagine that in any game its waay too many)... especially on a ship that has a cocpit (fighter? :wtf: )

[takashi]

i could show you one turret and let you make your decision on how i modded freespace to make 6barrels possible.

hint: 2 n 1

edit: a screenshot escapes me, so i converted it to a .cob and gave it only 3 firing points for those who didnt hack the tables to allow more than 3 firing points.

turret01.cob - 0.09MB (http://www.zshare.net/download/turret01-cob.html)

this turret is or public uses. and yes, i know truespace is something many people hate, but its the only way to make firing points. so import!

this is the turret that covers the the sides. they get taller twoards the middle. just wait n' see. the whole ship. looks like a fusion of the GTVA collusus, the lucifer, and an imperator. and all those beam weapons below the cockpit rule. (yes i did an in-game test. time to make a less detailed bridge. 1 frame per second is sucky. (the "cockpit" of a capship)

[Taristin]

I have nothing that can view cobs. Just a screeny with wireframe would suffice. Needless to say Im almost certain that you had no reason to use so many polies.

[takashi]

if i scale it down, de-turret it, and down the poly count to around 200, its not that pretty:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1226/untitled5gm.png (http://imageshack.us)

i hereby bub thee degraded version "random shivan fighter"!

[Taristin]

That's.... the turret?

[takashi]

one turret. thats a diifferent turret, the other one looks liike a streetligt. that one is duplicated 25 times for a laser array. the back end is usualy attached to a fitting area on the main ship. that way, no face intersections. this ship will take a awhile to finish. so keep waiting for what will slow your game down and destroy those pesky enemy fighters.

ps: the turret makes a great fighter.

[BS403]

This is an image of a ship from a MMORPG, a very nice model I may add.http://ogame122.de/evolution/gebaeude/207.gif


Nice Ogame

[Respenus]

Yeh.THe new evolution skin is very nice. Better then Epic Blue.

And those turrets are AWESOME. :eek2:

And if you were doing those turrets for me, I must say they look more then excellent. Can't wait to see the whole model!

[takashi]

i make the ship in seperate parts, and ut it together in truespace. with some FREDing and table edits, the whole thing can brake up into different ships. fighters, carriers, a juggernaut class, a cruiser, and a support ship.

the first fighter bay is in its finishing stages. be warned, this thing is HUGE. it probably will be bigger than your screen, so dont worry about LOD.

[Respenus]

the first fighter bay is in its finishing stages. be warned, this thing is HUGE. it probably will be bigger than your screen, so dont worry about LOD.

LOD?

Bigger then my screen :wtf: I'll take it!

So, I'll be able to play it in freespace?

Did I mention the thing has lauch tubes? Just checking...

Consider myself in your dept. Anything I can do or help with, tell me.

Another question: I the fighter bay bugger then my screen or is the whole ship.

Any way, you're making a big ship, what I asked you for.

[takashi]

yes. this moddel has launch tubes with turrets, beam cannons, and missles protecting them.

did i mention the fighter bay, even if cut in half, is bigger than your screen?

[Respenus]

No you didn't :eek2: And how do you know my screen size? :confused:

BTW, I must disapoint you. Beam cannons are not the original feature. It takes too much power and onla fter the intervention of higher force can they be added.

If you are too advance in the model, let them be, other wise, the ship only has heavy lasers, torpedoes, missiles, and plasma anti-capital ship weapon (which I'm thinking of removing, but I'm not sure yet). Like I explained in my thread, plasma weapons take a lot of power, so it's one of the special features the Liberator has.

And again, holy frak it's gonna be a magnificent ship!

[Lt. Cannonfodder]

And I still really would love to see some actual shots of the thing...

[Respenus]

And I still really would love to see some actual shots of the thing...

What did you ask for?

[Taristin]

He is, like I am, really curious to see just what was made with 40,000 polies (which, let me tell you, is quite a large number of polygons).

[takashi]

only one missle bay is complete. its small compared to everything else...

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9803/misslebay3rm.png (http://imageshack.us)

not only does the brightness of the lights included in turreting make it bright and vaugley detailed, but im zoomed way out so you can see the basic shape of the thing...

[Lt. Cannonfodder]

The whole thing...

Takashi, showing us small bits and pieces of some details is not a very good idea if we have no idea whatsoever of even the basic shape of the ship.

[Respenus]

The whole thing...

Takashi, showing us small bits and pieces of some details is not a very good idea if we have no idea whatsoever of even the basic shape of the ship.

I have to agree. But nevertheless, it is magnificent! :eek2:

[takashi]

the whole thing is crappy and detailess. i need to finish something this big in pieces. so i start with turrets, make missle/fighter bays, make launch tubes, redo the bridge, make a funtcioning cockpit view wth anti-glare on the multi-part turrets, find a powerful enough computer to convert it to a POF and do all those 100+ normals/firning points, and do more in-game tests. then the final release. wish the main body would even fit on my screen.... i have to use 2 monitors at the moment.

[Mav]

Looks like you're going to be pretty busy with this... 40k polies - *ouch* .
Most I had so far was 1,5k...

Good luck :) .

[Lt. Cannonfodder]

wish the main body would even fit on my screen.... i have to use 2 monitors at the moment.

Maybe use the zoom function every 3d app on the planet has? :wtf:

[Respenus]

Takashi, if you need a computer to procces stuff, you can use mine.

I have a Intel CORE 2 DUO 1.86Ghz
2Gb 800Mgz DDR2 RAM
256Mb GeForce 7600GT

So it can do "stuff".

Edit: Is there any way you could give us small, day to day (or couple of days) progress report. So that we see. We are all so impressed.

[takashi]

i scaled it down. it looks like a fusion between a hot dog and an arwing. some magnificent battleship.... u__u

[Respenus]

i scaled it down. it looks like a fusion between a hot dog and an arwing. some magnificent battleship.... u__u

What's an arwing?

You scaled it down? Will you still keep the poly number?

I liked it that you mentioned that you are currently making the "realy realy realy realy big ship".

Nice to hear you like the new battleship. ;)

[DaBrain]

Arwing->

http://hem.passagen.se/jc92/Bilder/foxplan.jpg

[Respenus]

:o:o:o

This may be a good time to tell takashi that the ship should be "round". I really can't imagine a ship with such protrusions out of it. Just that you know.

[takashi]

protrusions removed. say, would you like the launch tubes to actualy be "tubes", or long boxlike tunnles?

[Respenus]

protrusions removed. say, would you like the launch tubes to actualy be "tubes", or long boxlike tunnles?

I imagined them to lauch fighters. So if you could make them like launch tubes, it'd be perfect. What would the difference be anyway?

[takashi]

tubes would look better compared to boxes.

[Respenus]

Well I still don't know how the fighters will look like so...

But yeah, tubes look better.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Or some type of polygon. Maybe a hexagon on octogon. I do agree that it depends on the ships.

[takashi]

terran ships go good with boxes, while vasudans like tubes for the smooth type.

should i make it terran, vasudan, shivan, or Terran-vasudan?

[Respenus]

I want you to make them USRN fighters. As I know not Terran or Shivan designs, I cannot tell you. Something around BSG style :nervous: with shields and lasers. My fighters are bigger then the normal Viper, hence the better equipment. So...

[takashi]

now i need to make ships too?

now i'll be so tied up, all other request are cancled save for the shivan mod.

[Respenus]

now i need to make ships too?

now i'll be so tied up, all other request are cancled save for the shivan mod.

No, no, my dear takashi. :lol: No need to make me fighters.

Wha did you mean by, "I need to make ships too"? Weren't you already making one. One big one. My battleship?

[takashi]

actualy, this ship qualfies as a juggernaut class destroyer/carrier.

[Unknown Target]

So...are we ever going to get to see it?

[takashi]

its halfway finished! all i need to do is finsh the main hull and a few hangars.

after all, never release a beta model unless youre sure nothig will change much.

[Unknown Target]

But you're not releasing it...
All we want are pictures...

[takashi]

the picture is too big too upload...1.81 mb. sorry. besides, its just whatever could fit. (a small outcropping lined with turrets)

[Unknown Target]

Resize the picture and lower the JPEG compression quality...
And for the love of god, if you can't see the whole model, ZOOM OUT until you can.

[Lt. Cannonfodder]

UT is completely right takashi. Stuff like zooming out in a 3d application and saving compressed jpg images are 101 stuff for anyone doing any graphic work with computers.

If you are having trouble with that stuff, don't be afraid to ask how to do it.

[Respenus]

Yes, takashi. Come on, let's see the beast! :)

[takashi]

zoom out + scale down image to cut out the entire workspace=


http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9716/sfsfsfhgsr5.png (http://imageshack.us)

such a tiny tidbit... well, thats just part of a launch tube array with a whole buncha laser turrets...you can only see the top of the launch tube...

atleast you know your fighters will be defended by all those the first 4 Km of there journey past the launch tube.

[Taristin]

So.... its a box with a tonne of turrets on it?

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Or shot down by thier own guns :p

[StarSlayer]

You might want to go easy on the gun things, with them packed together so close they wont have a full range of motion to target enemies. They are likely to either entangle themselves or worse shoot one another which would be FUMTU. Fewer widely spaced gun things would be more effective since they would have a better fields of fire. Put simply the current setup is an example of the law of diminishing marginal returns.

[Respenus]

:eek2:

What can't you kill with this baby?

I must agree with StarSlayer and others, that's a tad too much. Sure you have a lot of fire, but... No lauch tube is covered with so many lasers. And considering where they're gonna be on the hull, there are no only too many turrets, but they're facing a wrong direction.

[takashi]

thats the launch tube on the top. just a little deviation. i'll make them rotating turrets and space them too...but you'll have to do the adding of firing points yourself. its just too annoying trying to see through all those lights.

[Respenus]

This might be a good time to confes. I know zero of anything on FS. So if you give me a tutorial on how to add firing points or I'll have to ask someone from this wonderful forum to do it for me. :nervous:

[karajorma]

In Truespace? You're in luck. I have a long tutorial dedicated to making turrets in my FAQ.

[Respenus]

In Truespace? You're in luck. I have a long tutorial dedicated to making turrets in my FAQ.

Takashi will have to tell us which program he used.

[Taristin]

Thats definately TS in that screeny.

[takashi]

its how i put the parts together.

it goes .x -> put together -> .cob -> (convert to favorite format)

that and truespace's work area is quite large.

[Lt. Cannonfodder]

About the big work area...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O_h6N2Qms4

[takashi]

ha...that guy knows nothig about the workings of a brand new copy of truespace 7! (got it just today!)

[Lt. Cannonfodder]

ha...that guy knows nothig about the workings of a brand new copy of truespace 7! (got it just today!)

The guy is using Maya, if you missed that.

[takashi]

stupid similar intefaces...and lo res video.

anyway: bad news:

the big ship is gone! it ended its life at 75k polies and died due to a hard drive crash, which it probably caused anyway. all i have now is a few turrets and a hangar ;_;

[Respenus]

:sigh::sigh::sigh:

Any hope of saving it? There are saving programes that alow you to get the lost data back yourself. Sure you didn't hear the drive give out some strange voices. Cause I can't believe that a file could cause a dish to crash. It's usualy a bad sector, some hardware problem that is never connected with software. I know, I've had my number of disk problems, luckily I always got the info back, cause it only caused a restart of the sistem and 10 seconds of work in BIOS (it screwed up the boot commands).

Sorry to hear that. Keep us posted.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

I think what he meant is all the disk swapping caused the system to find that bad part of the hard drive.

[takashi]

yeah...i do all my work off of a thumb drive....

maybe that made it screw up?

the PC is NTFS. the drive is in FAT32. i knew there would be a problem, but the format software never did anything.

[Respenus]

Damn. Gotta me more careful next time takashi. I wish you luck. Continue if you wish, otherwise, go work on the shivan mod.

[takashi]

to the shivan mod! *resumes making the lucifer mk2*