Read Me: 'Star Fox: Shadows of Lylat' Info + FAQ

[DaBrain]

What is this?

This project is a fan made game that runs on the FreeSpace_Open engine. It is not for any console system, and we are not affiliated by Nintendo, Argonaut Software, Namco, Q-Games, or anyone else terribly important.

Do go on...

To play it, all you will need is a fairly recent computer system. Exact system requirements aren't set yet, but they shouldn't be that bad. It is our hope that you will not need FreeSpace 2 installed to play, the final outcome should be a stand alone game.

So what's going to be in it?
A great many things...

* Lots of playable craft, including 3 different Arwings
* Weapons galore
* Enemies, both new and old
* Space and ground based missions
* A deep storyline
* Multiplayer
* And probably more!

When does the story take place?
The story takes place between Star Fox 64 and Star Fox Adventures. Yes, there is content from Assault, but there are good reasons for that.

Will we see Andross?
No. Next question.

Is it going to be just like Star Fox?
No. Star Fox is more of an arcade shooter, while Freespace is a simulation shooter. While the SCP allows us to do many awesome things, we won't be able to get it just like the original games.

Why is SoL a special game among the FS2_open games?
SoL is ment to push the engine to it's limits, using the most recent features the engine has and will get.
We're using everything we can to make sure SoL is always one of the most advanced games based on Freespace 2.

When is it coming out?
It will be done when it is done. We're doing this in our own and for zero money, so that's the best we can give you.

That being said, we're trying our best to get a demo done for people to try. When that comes out is another bunch of wonderful question dodging. (We're working on it.)

Will this run on a Mac or on Linux?
The engine is cross platform, so should run on any major platform.

What is the high-end package?
The high-end pack is ment for users with real high-end machines only. It features extremely high-res textures for some models and might feature some more complex models.
It's gernerally stuff, we decided to remove from the main game, as the visual improvements do not justify the performance loss on most PCs.
You need a 512 MB gfx card to use this pack.

[Eiyo]

Your link to the FS_open file seems to be non-existant.

[DaBrain]

Thanks, I forgot to add it somehow. Probably because I did just copy the text from the old board. ;:)

[Robotech123]

Heh. One of my favorite games on the n64 (besides goldeneye) was starfox 64. Good luck with this guys! It looks really promising....

[Fox McCloud]

Hmmm, seriously, any projected release date of this mod? I really like the looks of it....but I'm not sure whether to invest in Freespace 2 or not.

Also, have you guys considered modding a different game to fit a Star Fox theme? A game such as Battlefield 1942 or Star Wars Battlefront?

[Axem]

Sure. 2006-2007 sound good? Maybe 2008 at the latest. We can't get more exact than that I'm afraid. ;) They take quite a while to do. There's a few ones that have been in progress for 5 years, so I wouldn't expect to see a ton for awhile.

If you are interested in FS2, it's generally considered abandonware, so there are places you can find it...

But the end goal is to make it a totally stand-alone game, so you wouldn't need to get FS2.

And we're pretty much limited to FS2 'round here, so a no go on those other games.

[Jonathan_S47]

2335 :biggrin1:

[Fox McCloud]

Dang.....I need to find some group who would like to do a mod for either of those games....or just have them wait and make it for Battlefield 2. 2006? 2007?! Wowza, that's a LONG while.....oh well, hopefully it'll be good, and won't be dropped.

[DaBrain]

We could release a demo, but not anytime soon. But if we release a demo, it it will probably come out this year.


And I'm sure this project won't be dropped. I enjoy working on it. And almost all members are pretty productive (where's Kuruma?). :)

[Fox McCloud]

would you need Freespace 2 for the demo? Or would it be stand-alone?

[DZComposer]

That sounds like extra work for a demo. But what do I know? I'm just the composer. :p

[DaBrain]

would you need Freespace 2 for the demo? Or would it be stand-alone?

I'm pretty sure you'll need Freespace 2. But if some other stand-alone mods (like The Babylon Project) lend us some stuff we might be able to make it stand-alone.

[Fox McCloud]

Ok, hopefully that will happen, otherwise I'll have to go on a hunt for Freespace 2...X_X;

[DZComposer]

A good tool for that hunt is Bit-Torrent. I've also seen it floating around on E-mule.

[Fox McCloud]

yeah, you can get it on this very forums, but I don't have DSL or cable...and it'd take literally forever to download the 1.5 gig game. Now before you go ridiculing me about not getting DSL or thinking I'm crazy, let me explain; Where I live (yes, it's in the US) we are not ABLE to get DSL/Cable out here....only 56K/Satellite (which is too much for a not so great speed.) So....we're stuck with 56K, unless Spring lives up to what they said earlier.....they said that *supposedly* we would be able to get Spring DSL pretty soon....heh....yeah right!

[DaBrain]

It this becomes a stand-alone version, it will be far smaller.

Probably more around 200-300MB, bur perhaps more.

With the last pre-alpha pack + some of my new things, we're @ ~50 MB.
But I've worked on the starmap. As soon as it is complete I can (and will) create Command Briefing animations. And that will add at least 50 Mb. Probably more.


It's too early to think about this, but we could put optional stuff into seperate files for dl.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

okay, im the newb here.... u guys requested modders on Gaming Forums so I came here to help.... What format is/are the 3d files in and Where is a link to this Freespace thingy?

[AqueousShadow]

modder as in modeller? I don't believe we need any more of those ATM. You could ask the rest, but I think we have a good team of 'em.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

lol, i just go by what it says on the message boards

[Jonathan_S47]

A project’s web site is usually a better place (depending on how often they update it) to see what positions a need filled. Click Me. (http://www.game-warden.com/starfox/helpwanted.html)

Yeah, Between Me, Omni, Axem, and now DaBrain is learning Modeling I think we got that area pretty much covered.

[Axem]

:p Pah, I even said on the website, the forum is the better place to go for info. As I can only be bothered to update the site every 3 months or so. Silly Axem.

Anyhow I updated the information above, a few formatting thingys as well.

[Jonathan_S47]

True, but the help wanted list is still more accurate than a four month old post. ;)

[DaBrain]

I'll update the wanted list.

@ Wolf Another modder won't do any bad. There are still tons of models to do...
But we really need an UV mapper. If can help us with the UV mapping and create models, that would be great.

And BTW how good are your texturing skills?

[Wolf O'Donnell]

i can tex pretty good, what format do you need em in?

[Jonathan_S47]

We use .tga, .dds, and .pcx (8-bit PCX is a requirement for FRED right now) textures.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

okay, now for tgas... which version? Targa Image or Truevision targas? (yes there a difference)

[Jonathan_S47]

Truevision Targa (at least that’s what PSP7 is calling it).

[Wolf O'Donnell]

lol, okay then, all ill need to create textures then is the 3d model, that way i can make sure tgas fit and look good

[Wolf O'Donnell]

is this the freespcae im supposed to get by the way? http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/showthread.php?threadid=31100

[Axem]

Well, technically yeah, but that's just the engine, nothing else.

You'd want to either find the ISOs, or download it from HOTU. The HOTU version is lacking a few (hundred) files, but still works. Karajorma has a guide to upgrading the HOTU version to a full version, just entails quite a bit of downloading.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

>-< urls plze

[karajorma]

For HOTU
Start here (http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4150)

Then go here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/hotu.html) for details on what to do next.

If you have Bit Torrent
There is also a bit torrent of the full game available from here (http://prototype24.ath.cx:6969/index.html?filter=Games). That's probably the best way to get the game but you have to be using BitTorrent already obviously.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

god lord.... 248mgs?! >-< thatll take forever on my stupid dial up....... ill just have to get the mutlipart dl....

[Fox McCloud]

Heh! Long liver 56kers! Actually, I'm joking, I hate 56Kers, so yes, I hate myself. ;p It's very annoying.....living with 56K

[karajorma]

god lord.... 248mgs?!

And that's for the incomplete HotU version. FS2 came on 3 disks. Which makes it a hell of a big game for its time

[Wolf O'Donnell]

>-< could i say get this on a CD?

[karajorma]

Where abouts do you actually live. You might be able to get someone to send you acopy if it's not too far.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

okay.. any1 near VA in the US?

[Fox McCloud]

I'm back from the grave......so to speak. So how is this project coming along DaBrain?

[DaBrain]

Hey, you're back. :)

We're progressing pretty nice. Anyway, we won't post screenshots for while. Not before we've completed a few more things.

[BlackWolf87]

Heh, I finally learned what you guys are talking about!

A demo woul dbe a good idea, get another team of modlers, use FreeSpace 2 on it, and you should finish a few months before the real thing is released :D

[DaBrain]

Well, we thought about a demo, but we're not sure yet. Anyway, it would take a long time until we're ready to release something...

It's more about a massive media release to get some more people into the team. Right now the mod is pretty much underrated in the FS2 community.

Maybe some people saw the potential when we released the first trailer with the tossed landscape, but since then we didn't release anything really stunning anymore.

If you know a modeller or a 2d artist, you should ask them to visit this site.

[Fox McCloud]

Hey, you're back. :)

We're progressing pretty nice. Anyway, we won't post screenshots for while. Not before we've completed a few more things.

Of the recent screenshots I have seen, they are shear awesomeness! Kudos to you.

[Kaid]

Hi, I've been lurking for a bit...

First, it seems to me at least, that you are violating Nintendo's intelectual property. I woudn't want you guys to be sued. What you do is too kewl.

On the otherhand, if you can legally use the Nintendo characters... have you considered approching Nintendo about porting the game to the Nintendo Revolution? I'd love to try playing that free-range combat with the freehand controller!

[Axem]

Technically, anyone using the Star Fox characters in any unauthorized way is violating their intellectual property, that would cover fan art and fan fic stuff too.

We're not claiming this stuff is ours, and we acknowledge that the characters we use are someone else's property (though I have to put up a notice saying that somewhere :nervous: ). We hope that Nintendo doesn't mind what we are doing, we're not trying to compete with them.

As for the Rev thing, we'll... I don't think it'll happen. I think they'd do a better job than us (but just by a bit ;)). We're just like 10 guys doing this in our free time, while they have a ton more people and do it all day.

[DaBrain]

It's hard to create a tribute for a game series if you create a totally unrelated game isn't it? ;)

Of course we've discussed this issue several times. I think Nintendo probably has the right to tell us to put the site down and stop developing it.
But why should they?

The FS2 community is small. The FS2 players aren't exactly Nintendos target group. Most of them probably don't even know Starfox. They will not buy less Starfox games because of the mod, cause they probably won't buy one anyway. At the best rate, we might even get some of them interested in the franchise.


To be honest I fear they're not even thinking about this, cause they probably don't care, or don't even now our project.



I don't think we'll ever be possible to port the game to a console. Appart from the needed code changes (we do not have a coder...), we'd have to alter the whole content.

And to be realistic, we couldn't release it anyway. How should be contribute it. The only possible way would be to ask Nintendo to include it on a demo disc, or something like that.

A commercial contribution is prohibited by the license of the FS2 open source code.



You shouldn't worry too much about this matter. ;)

[AqueousShadow]

Yea, none of this really matters anyway. The real focus here is FSO, and the capabilities of the SCP. Only with those would we have the ability to modify it as we have. Star Fox is just the universe we're using, just as much as anyone else MODs for other science fiction or fantasy games or whatever.

It's a tribute. It's a MOD. It's not commercial. And I highly doubt we'll ever have anything to do with Nintendo beyond a C&D letter.

[DaBrain]

Maybe Volition could sue us. If they consider this project as ad for Starfox, they probably could try it.

:nervous:

But we're not related to Nintendo in any way, so I'm not sure about that.

[takashi]

do not give them ideas...

[Star Yoshi]

sorry, had a quick question.

Is this going to be voice acted in different languages? (ex. German + English...?)

If so, that'd be great, cause I don't think I can learn German :/

[Atalhlla]

It's going to be voice acted in English. Unless DaB wants to do all the voices. Which would be rather entertaining.

[Psygonis]

Well, maybe when the game will be finished, some of us might translate the game in other languages and perform voice acting but it's not sure...

[takashi]

there are always subtitles.....

anywhoz:
i am willing to do moddling if any of you could send me a 3d program using zshare or something.

(seriously, i have 10 ships with the same style as you guys and wann see 'em in 3d)

[Atalhlla]

Eeh, no warez here. Have you tried Blender, though?

http://www.blender3d.org/

It takes a bit of wrapping your mind around.

There's also Truespace 3, though I think the general concensus is that it's designed by a monkey on space crack. Oh, and I don't have the URL off hand.

[karajorma]

Links to a whole bunch of modeling programs is available in the tools section of my FAQ.

[takashi]

system specs yet?

eh, no warez here

when you see a name like game warden, you think "free outdated version of 3ds max 1" or "old games for free"

in other words, i thought this was an adonware site like HoTU

[Star Dragon]

(Late reply to this Takashi gem...)

Actually when I see the name Game Warden, images of Ranger Smith Kicking Yogi's ass for stealing pick nick baskets comes to my mind...

[DaBrain]

Woah! I completely missed that posting.

Takashi... if you don't stop posting things like that, you'll end up getting banned for a bit more than three days...

[Hardsoftleandro]

Someone here know when will be coming this game, or the pre-view date?

Obs.: Sorry for my english.

[Star Fox Fan]

well, so far there's no definite release date given except "when it's done" as has been said a few times in older topics. We've also been given no definite release date for the preview version set to replace the cancelled demo, aside from the answer above...

and welcome to the forum by the way

[DaBrain]

well, so far there's no definite release date given except "when it's done" as has been said a few times in older topics. We've also been given no definite release date for the preview version set to replace the cancelled demo, aside from the answer above...

and welcome to the forum by the way

That's pretty much it. ;)

It's not that we don't want to give a release date. We simply can't, cause we don't know it for sure.

Of course we can estimate the time to the release, but in the end, it could take a few months more when a member doesn't have time for a while, a voice actor disappears, whatever.

So estimates are dangerous and can upset the community. We will inform you when we're close to release, but even then, I'd rather like to avoid a public release date (there will be an internal one though).

I hope that's fine with you guys. ;)

[takashi]

i was banned? i just left for life.

Admin: No, you were banned for three days.

[Hardsoftleandro]

Ok, thanks for information, DaBrain!

[Devestator]

Blender? bah, my .dts creator script dosen't work with that, (they were made to go together) and makes a simple object takes half an hour. :P

Welcome to the boards.

[SHAD0W F0X]

I really(x10) can not wait for this to be released... Since It will hold me off until another official StarFox game is released.

[SHAD0W F0X]

OH! idk if this was asked b4, and i apologize for repeating the questions, BUT

Is there going to be landmaster/walking missions? and are we going to see the starfox64 arwing and/or Starfox Adventures Arwing?

Like I said, I apologize for repeating these questions if they have been asked b4, but this thread seemed like it was appropriate to ask them.

[Mustang19]

There's a features list in the first post.


So what's going to be in it?
A great many things...

* Lots of playable craft, including 3 different Arwings
* Weapons galore
* Enemies, both new and old
* Space and ground based missions
* A deep storyline
* Multiplayer
* And probably more!

So yes, there'll be ground missions and we have an Adventures model sitting around too. Things change, features are usually added or dropped during development. One guarantee I can make is that it will rock. So just wait for the game to come out.

[SHAD0W F0X]

ehh heh heh... must not have read THAT part.. lol now i feel stupid

[Evill Bob]

Yes, I am pleased. I shall keep an eye on this and hope it goes a little faster in development than Cortex Command.

[CoolSlyZero]

Yes, I am pleased. I shall keep an eye on this and hope it goes a little faster in development than Cortex Command.
What the heck is Cortex Command? Another star fox game? or something else?

[Evill Bob]

What the heck is Cortex Command? Another star fox game? or something else?

No, but it didn't stop someone from coding a buggy arwing into it. It's something I've been watching for some time; it's a side-scrolling RTS/Contra-style shooter. Check it out if you wish, it's about as done as Duke Nukem Forever (or less) so don't expect much especially from the "full" version. Full version is just there as an incentive based donation system. It's not worth twenty bucks by any standard, at least not yet. But I have a weakness for small game makers, so I guess I'll stick around until Cortex is finally finished or fails. Of course I'll do the same with this, I've been looking for a good starfighter game since the days of Star Wars TIE Fighter (it's been a while).

While I've never been impressed by Star Fox games since I picked up PC gaming this has definitely caught my eye. Especially after that video I saw that reminded me so much of unrailroaded yet organized games like TIE Fighter. Here's to hoping that this will finally put those oldies but goodies into retirement and that fresh blood will finally be spilt among the stars.

Of course this means I've got to check out other MODs and total conversions to FreeSpace.

[Scourge of Ages]

Welome to the forum, Bob!

Check out the Star Wars conversion if you're interested in other mods: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,143.0.html

Also: your avatar is mildly unsettling.:yes:

[Evill Bob]

Welome to the forum, Bob!

Check out the Star Wars conversion if you're interested in other mods: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,143.0.html

Also: you're avatar is mildly unsettling.:yes:

Great... another "soonish to be released" thing to watch... Why am I so fond of things that don't exist yet?

[Shad]

Curious, have any models of characters been made yet? If so, have you shown them yet?

EDIT: I almost forgot to ask if the storyline will have anything to with the in between comic: Farewell, Beloved Falco.

[swiftfox260]

Curious, have any models of characters been made yet? If so, have you shown them yet?

EDIT: I almost forgot to ask if the storyline will have anything to with the in between comic: Farewell, Beloved Falco.
Acually, if you look in the screenshots thread, on one of them, you can see Fox in one of the Arwings... I don'tthink they have a point in even making models for characters that they won't even utilize...

Oh, btw... First post of this thread was on my birthday =D

[Räven]

A quick question...
are there going to be any special patch's or mods recurred to play SOL when it come's to FreeSpace 2? to download relation with the relese?

[Scourge of Ages]

If I'm correct, and I am, this is a total-conversion mod. A single installation file that will install the specially modified version of Freespace 2 and everything you need to play SOL. If it's anything like the others, it should be between 500Mb and 3Gb.

If I'm wrong (and I'm not :) somebody please correct me.

[Koto]

i hope the system specs will be low enough for me.hopefully it is below 1 GB RAM

[DaBrain]

SoL will run on a (very) wide range of systems.

Of cource, the more you've got, the better it will look, but even without shaders, it still looks pretty good.

1 GB ram or more would be nice, but it probably won't be an requirement.
Unless you use Windows Vista, which uses more ram for the OS, so there is less for the game left.

[Koto]

Vista?ooooh,thats very bad for me,i dont think i can downgrade to XP yet so i guess ill be playing on low settings.oh by the way,when i play FS2 i play on the highest graphics settings and it still runs pretty smoothly

[Star Raptor]

Um, this might be a stupid question, but by ' ground missions' did they mean on foot or with landmasters? It wouldn't be to bad a few parts for on foot, but one of the big mistakes nintendo made with the later games was shifting the main focus (space flight) to ideas that they just THOUGHT would work.... I'm rambling, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that I really hope that not to much of the game is non arwing related combat.

[Star Raptor]

Also, another couple of questions out there,

How will communication be handled in the game, will it support its own voice chat? friend system? chat box? mail system? etc. Or will players have to find someother way such as team speak if they want to recreate the starfox visual radio system. Also that brings this up, will this game be using the 'visual radio'? Or what?

Also, basic control question, is the game being built to some standard set up for play, I doubt you'd leave us out there and MAKE us play with a certain setup, but is the game being focused to keyboard, key and mouse, joystick, game pad, etc.?

[DaBrain]

A lot of questions... ;)

"Ground mission" only mean missions on planets. Due to the engine limitations, Landmaster missions will most likely not be possible.

In multiplayer there is a voice chat system, but other than that, it's pretty basic.
Your scores in matches will be saved on the FS2Net server, if you register an account there, but there is no friend system or a mail system.


The game is mainly designed for joystick and gamepad, but we're trying to keep it playable with keyboard+mouse as well.

[Star Raptor]

Love ya man, sounds awesome, hopefully someday you will be able to program landmaster missions or even make a standalone star fox game where they are all landmaster missions, but that raises the question, just because land-land missions are impossible, are underwater ones also impossible?

Edit: You didn't comment on whether the vocal communication in the actual game will be accompanied by visuals of the characters talking. I probably didn't phrase the question right.

[DaBrain]

They're also hard to do. Just for different reasons.

But not quite as impossible. ;)

[Star Raptor]

I'm getting a good vibe right around this area* waves hands over area around Da*

[Dood]

i have a question too...

will there be the first person camera, like at SF64? i realy liked playing that way, and it would be nice add, i think. should i get my hopes up about it? also, will there be those warp gates like at the meteo stage(SF64)? it would ruin the surprise if you told us, but i'd really like to know^^'

thats it, i guess. seeya...

[ArwingT]

Questions!
1. Will Star Wolf be a boss in this game?
2. Will a TIE Fighter (Star Wars) be a secret Aircraft?
3. Will MacBeth return?

[Turambar]

If the TIE was a secret aircraft, and we told you, would it still be a secret aircraft?

[ArwingT]

If the TIE was a secret aircraft, and we told you, would it still be a secret aircraft?

Oh. Good point. :)

[StarSlayer]

Questions!
3. Will MacBeth return?

Considerin' he was beheaded by MacDuff chances are not.

[ArwingT]

I meant the planet MacBeth, not the person.

[AqueousShadow]

Considerin' he was beheaded by MacDuff chances are not.

LOL! Yes!

Coincidentally, William Shakespeare may make an appearance.

[ArwingT]

LOL! Yes!

Coincidentally, William Shakespeare may make an appearance.

Wha?!?!? Okay, you've set me up.
To be, or not to be. That is the question.

[D-Mac]

LOL! Yes!

Coincidentally, William Shakespeare may make an appearance.

Albert Einstein should undoubtedly play a major role, if not the largest role! Falco (http://starfox64.baldninja.com/wav/fal-einstein.wav) has consistently expressed his stance as an ally of Einstein.

Thus, I hereby conclude that Falco has always been a covert agent, under the true command of Einstein.

[ArwingT]

Albert Einstein should undoubtedly play a major role, if not the largest role! Falco (http://starfox64.baldninja.com/wav/fal-einstein.wav) has consistently expressed his stance as an ally of Einstein.

Thus, I hereby conclude that Falco has always been a covert agent, under the true command of Einstein.

:lol: :no:
Funny, but bad idea.

[Falco314]

is there a problem on reviving a sticky topic?

[DaBrain]

Only if you have a reason to do so...

[Falco314]

hum.

[I_am]

I know its annoying, but is there any hope for an demo release in the near future? I have looked all the screenies and cannot wait for anything playable. You guys did an awesome work! I must say, many of what i saw looks better than from nintendo self!!! Please keep going on it!!!!

[Shain Asuka]

... the vocal communication in the actual game will be accompanied by visuals of the characters talking?

I have one question to add to this. IF we can get it, will there be support for custom pictures?

[DaBrain]

I can quickly answer that with a "no". There won't be custom images in the communications.

[Takashi!]

Regardless, anyone could take a look wtih VP view and place their own versions of files in /data/whatever.

I prefer plain text without talking heads anyway.

[Falcory]

I see I can post my questions up here so I'll do so:

Will Katt Monroe, (The Catspaw) be in the game?
Are any Command ships going to be in as well?
How about the Blue Marine? Are there going to be any levels with that particular vehicle?

[Falcory]

Sorry to double post but I just had some other questions:

Will you be able to Barrel Roll and Lock on? (Do a U-turn, Sommersault, ect)
What characters from 64 will be in the game?
Is Andrew still on the Starfox team, in the story?
When you say explore all of the Lylat system, do you mean ALL?? (Like the planets and such.)

[Mr. Harold Saxon]

Sorry to double post but I just had some other questions:

That's what the edit button is for.

[Fox's_Feather]

I think I can answer some of these ones.

Will you be able to Barrel Roll

They said no actually but they are working on it, but you don't have to expect it like the SF 64 Barrel Roll.

What characters from 64 will be in the game?

Unfortunately the whole StarFox Team crashed their ships and died in a library so you'll play as rocky cornerian military. As for Bill and Katt, they vanished in the Black Hole.
Well, I don't know.

Is Andrew still on the Starfox team, in the story?

Hard to say since he has never been.

How about the Blue Marine? Are there going to be any levels with that particular vehicle?

No.

Are any Command ships going to be in as well?

Except the Arwings, I think not.

[Falcory]

Actually I meant to ask if Andrew would still be on the STARWOLF team. Sorry.

If the Barrel roll won't be like the 64 one, what is IT going to be like? The Adventures one? The Assault one? The COMMAND one? Lol...

[Falco314]

alright, was there something unusual and stupid about the command barrel roll?

[Falcory]

alright, was there something unusual and stupid about the command barrel roll?

Not really. I kinda liked the Command barrel roll. It was better than the Assualt one. That one didn't seem to deflect squat...:doubtful:

[SuperMegaLuigi]

With what for a 3d prgramm making you that?

[Andrew_McCloud]

With what for a 3d prgramm making you that?

o.o wut

[Unknown Starfox Member]

Do you (after SoL) make a remake of the laterst version of Starfox 2? I mean: Starfox 2 is COMPLETLY All range mode, is FS2 not perfect for something like this?

[Fox_McCloud3232]

Posted by Unknown Starfox Member: "Do you (after SoL) make a remake of the laterst version of Starfox 2? I mean: Starfox 2 is COMPLETLY All range mode, is FS2 not perfect for something like this?"

I don't know if they'll want to do much after SOL. they've been working on it for over six years. and i think that's kind of a bit much to ask seeing as they've been doing all of this in their spare time. Not trying to be rude, but i think that's how i would feel if i was working on something and was asked to do more after i finally finished it.

[kruai]

Haha yeah. I'm just happy thinking about this project. Going beyond that seems a bit much.
It's fun to think about though. These guys have a lot of talent. Who knows what they could come up with after this.

[Mr. Harold Saxon]

Besides, I think a Starfox 2 remake would be pushing our already strained luck.

[Andrew_McCloud]

Especially since Nintendo already tried that with Command. >.>

[Taristin]

No Blue Marine?! Aww..... well thats it then. Whole project is a failure without that!

[Prototype]

Optionally, the Blue Marine could just be a flyable ship. XD

[Falco314]

Optionally, the Blue Marine could just be a flyable ship. XD

^²

[Joey]

Falcory, I could only guess that Andrew is still in the Star Wolf Team, since this game is in the timeline between N64 Starfox and Adventures. He hasnt made the choice yet to take over Andross's chair. If anyone could correct me that'd be fine :).

[maxmccloud]

"just who we need to see, starwolf"

not sure but i beleive it was during adventures and assualt andrew decided to be a punk and make that extremely easy andross wannabe boss :P.

sadly ive never beaten adventures, it seems as though once i get past cloud city someone comes along and deletes my saves or steals my game, or scratches my game or writes with asharpie on my game, anyways yea ive bought like 12 copies of adventures i just got sick of it and stopped haha.

back on topic

....got nothin to say, moving on

[DragonLost]

hi guys, new here.
i was wondering if you were planing cut scenes for plot? and if you were doing any character animations when peppy, falco, or other characters call you mid-game?

also if someone could fix the faq on http://shadowsoflylat.net/faq.php
i got so excited wen i saw the voice acting casting bit. to think i could potentially be the voice of a one-line red-shirt character, only to find out they ended in early '07.... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

edit:
will SOL have a cockpit view and if so will it support Trackir (http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/), cause that would be beyond epic

[Ratge]

i think there is nothing known about a view out of the cockpit...

[Scourge of Ages]

i think there is nothing known about a view out of the cockpit...
FS2, the game engine this is based on, has only cockpit view, so it's not a stretch to imagine that SoL will also have it as an option.

[Syphe D. Mar]

FS2, the game engine this is based on, has only cockpit viewNot true. It can be played in third person.

[DragonLost]

i did some snooping and it looks like trackir does support fso (http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/03-enhanced-games/game-freespace-2.html). yay

[Scourge of Ages]

Not true. It can be played in third person.
I guess I should have said "primarily" instead. It may have slipped my mind.
Did you ever use 3rd person veiw in FS? I couldn't 'cause it was impossible to hit anything or fly in a straight line.

[Falco314]

^for me it was impossible to hit anything in ANY type of vision :lol:

[MarekMcCloud]

I wonder whether it will have to do with the comic that takes place between Star Fox 64 and Adventures

[Flammenwerfer fox]

I wonder how we will be able to download/upload(whatever) the game. And for that matter, how big will the down/uploads be? You see I have satelite internet, hughes net to be exact, and they limit my internet usage for each day. So it matters a LOT how big the whatever loads are. But I guess I could just go to an internet cafe or something.

[Flaming Cobra]

Yeah, I have some pretty good photoshop skills, but I only have microsoft picture it at home, so... yeah, but if you need any help with making textures, then I'll certainly help. Putting the textures on the models, however, is a totally different story.

Also, don't let this get too much attention, or else Nintendon't might do the same thing to you as Microsoft did to Halogen.

And, I was thinking, another FS2 star fox mod would be cool, if you got to be a normal cornarian pilot, and were in engagements with the venomians like in Kitania in Lylat Wars. And you're in a regular cornarian fighter, not an arwing.

[TheUnknownWanderer]

Hello there. I'm rather new here, just joined a few seconds ago but I'm a big fan of the SoL production. I've been following it for quite some time now.

I was wondering, if there would be any use of the vehicles such as the Blue Marine or Landmaster at some point in the game. I know it's going to be based on the classic style of just using the Arwing and stuff, but...I think it would be pretty neat if there was a chance of those two vehicles making an appearance. Especially the Blue Marine, because it was only used once in any of the Star Fox titles put together, back in SF64.

[Scourge of Ages]

Hello and
:welcome t

That seems to be one of the first questions everybody asks, and the answers are:
No landmaster without a whole lot more work, and may be impossible.
Probably no Blue Marine, as the ones making the game don't really like it. There's nothing stopping you from making one and some missions for it once the game is released though.

[TheUnknownWanderer]

Ah. In any case, it's an idea that inspires me. I'd love the game without them, though! I'm already hooked.

[Falco314]

Ah. In any case, it's an idea that inspires me. I'd love the game without them, though! I'm already hooked.

Blue Marine was made barely for the classic Water level cliche thing. And frankly, it sucks.
About the Landmaster, i like the SF64 one, and would like to see it in SoL, but SF Assault's was a freaking buggy with a turret. we've nicknamed it the Crap-mobile.
And the arwing is a flying death machine, but i guess you've alterady seen that. On SF64 at least, it can do the job of Bombers, Interceptors and assault fighters at the same time. AND it can Barrel roll.biggrin
wait, just realized i'm rambling on stuff we all know. >.>

[Fox's_Feather]

Well it's sometime good to make a little check up.
Did you guys know that Fox was named after the animal he is? Impressive work don't you think?

[Falco314]

Well it's sometime good to make a little check up.
Did you guys know that Fox was named after the animal he is? Impressive work don't you think?

HOLY CRAP you're right!
i had, after much tought, realized that Wolf was but i never suspected about Fox! :eek2:

[TheUnknownWanderer]

HOLY ******* NO WAY!?!?!

Oh wait, of course. You tricked me you bastard! :hoppingma

Jk.

[zorro7]

had not read the information before

I have really wanted to try the management of Arwing
thanks for clearing it of compatibility with linux

[Team Star fox]

BE CAREFUL!

Dear SOL Team, i think you've got a mistake! I saw it in your screenshots that you#ve been creating Fortuna than an ice planet, but Fortuna is a tropical planet, just like Sauria.FICHINA is the ice planet,
be careful!

[Scourge of Ages]

Yes, we've been over this ad nauseum already. Thanks for bringing it up, the team is aware of possible confusion. See some of the other threads for the discussion.

[Darkrogue]

Will the Wolfen be added and/or will the arwings be upgradable/customizable?

[SHAD0W F0X]

I can't help but feel that this whole project is dead. This is the first time I've checked this site in a few years, and it seems like there's no info on progress...

Is there any NEW information you can give everyone? Is it The End or almost near a percentage of completion?

[Brockenstein]

All I am at liberty to say is we are weighing out the pros and cons of a few decisions right now. By no means is the project dead. Sorry for the slowdown in updates though.

[SHAD0W F0X]

In my opinion, It seems like there would be more pros. But at the same time, there is all the legal issues to consider as well.

This is a great Idea, and would probably be one of the greatest fan conversion mods of any game I have seen: among the ranks of GoldenEye Source and games alike. This is a game for fans by fans, and I know I cannot wait until the final project. I just hope Nintendo doesn't give you guys any trouble.

Speaking of Nintendo, they said that if the 3Ds remake of SF64 does not do well, they have no choice but to cancel the entirety of the series in the future. I really hope that is not the case!

[Falco314]

Speaking of Nintendo, they said that if the 3Ds remake of SF64 does not do well, they have no choice but to cancel the entirety of the series in the future. I really hope that is not the case!

Which gives us the question: If SF64 3DS goes well, will they go back to handing StarFox to third parties that will just crap a little more on the series, or will they realize how stupid they've been and stuff?

[Flaming Cobra]

Only time will tell.

*retreats back to the shadows*

EDIT: I think they are insinuating they are ready to get rid of Star Fox...........

OOOOOOPENNNN SOOOOOOOURRRRRCCCCEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

[SHAD0W F0X]

Only time will tell.

EDIT: I think they are insinuating they are ready to get rid of Star Fox...........

OOOOOOPENNNN SOOOOOOOURRRRRCCCCEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

That was never insinuated at all, what article were you reading?

If it DOES WELL, then IT STAYS: Plain and simple.

I also think that they realized there mistake on handing out the game to 3rd parties. If this 3DS remake does well, they stated that they were very interested in making a Wii StarFox game. However, they might also make it a Wii U game since thats coming out too. So if it does well, expect in the future to see a Wii or a Wii U - StarFox title.

[Flaming Cobra]

But what if it doesn't do well?

[SHAD0W F0X]

Well, don't sound TOO enthusiastic about it doing well or anything.... but...

If anything, the series would be put on hold until a demand from fans is high enough for a new game to be made. Then, you will have this fan made game to hold you off until that happens.

However, all of us old fans of SF64, and any new fans the remake will bring in will in fact shoot up the series' popularity and therefore I feel that there will be many more official SF games from Nintendo.

[Flaming Cobra]

Will there be an expansion pack? Like an additional storyline that is kind of like the Dreamcast game Armada where you do missions to get credits and you can buy powerups and upgrades for your arwings and the great fox to do ever harder missions?

I know the community could do their own but I would like to see the SoL team do it because then it would be better.

[bjsspeed@gmail.com]

What's your estimation of completion in percentage thus far thanks

[Scourge of Ages]

What's your estimation of completion in percentage thus far thanks
Thank you for your interest in Shadows of Lylat. In answer to your question, let me quote the first page of this thread:

When is it coming out?
It will be done when it is done. We're doing this in our own and for zero money, so that's the best we can give you.

That being said, we're trying our best to get a demo done for people to try. When that comes out is another bunch of wonderful question dodging. (We're working on it.)

So based on that, and based on the fact that projects such as these are almost impossible to quantify as a percentage, I would estimate between 20% and 99% complete. I doubt you'd get such a precise estimate from anybody else, sorry.

That said, :welcome t

[Flaming Cobra]

when will people stop asking dumb questions?

o wait. never.

WHERE'S THE ANSWER TO MY EXPANSION PACK QUESTION?

[Psygonis]

That's not a dumb question, it's a legitimate one.
This said, given the previous questions, true he could have found clues on the forum already... ;)

As to answer both questions, it's hard to say precisely right now. As Brox mentioned before, we're going through some changes that actually change things quite much!
In order not to confuse people, the SoL Team would like to keep a low-profile until after the release of Star Fox 64 3D. Then, you'll have some news! ;)

[Flaming Cobra]

I'll take that to the bank. If I don't hear anything after that, you'll owe me interest.

[bjsspeed@gmail.com]

Thank you for your interest in Shadows of Lylat. In answer to your question, let me quote the first page of this thread:


So based on that, and based on the fact that projects such as these are almost impossible to quantify as a percentage, I would estimate between 20% and 99% complete. I doubt you'd get such a precise estimate from anybody else, sorry.

That said, :welcome t
Ive been interested in this almost since the start so thank's for the reply

P.s I'm fluent in spanish if you need any dialog translated just tell me

[bjsspeed@gmail.com]

Thank you for your interest in Shadows of Lylat. In answer to your question, let me quote the first page of this thread:


So based on that, and based on the fact that projects such as these are almost impossible to quantify as a percentage, I would estimate between 20% and 99% complete. I doubt you'd get such a precise estimate from anybody else, sorry.

That said, :welcome t
Ive been interested in this almost since the start so thank's for the reply

P.s I'm fluent in spanish if you need any dialog translated just tell me

[Brockenstein]

Just keep an eye out. If and when we need that help we will make sure everyone knows what we are looking for.

[Flaming Cobra]

@ bjsspeed@gmail.com

You double-posted.


@SoL Team:
Will download links be on your site or on the Hard-Light Productions site? Or here?.

PS: Should I ask for the Halo CE Anniversary for Christmas or a 3ds and sf64 3d?

[Psygonis]

Download links are likely to be in our website, and on this forum in the first place. Afterward, well, they shall spawn wherever people plant them! ;)

[Flaming Cobra]

I've been looking on some other sites and a lot of people have been saying that the arwings look too "static" in game. I would have to agree with them, as the ship does not back when it turns, and the wings are straight out instead of swept back in the S64 arwing.

However I assume these moving and banking things are just limitations of the game engine, or have they been fixed since the last trailer?

Also, Psygonis, could you tell us a little about the difference between the Standard and the Photon lasers? Are they supposed to be the regular and hyper lasers or is this something totally different?

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Holy shit DaBrain! I been reading the Old Screenshot thread. You been holding out on us! Where's the FTP you spoke of?

[Brockenstein]

I am afraid as for any questions about the game and what changes have been made since the trailer we can't reveal anything at the moment.

[Flaming Cobra]

Where's the FTP?

[Psygonis]

We do not use the FTP anymore, or only to store some "legacy" stuff... ;)

[Flaming Cobra]

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww doodie

[Psygonis]

Well, when you manipulate source code files, FTP just sucks. Revisioning, merging. versioning... You just can't do it seriously with an FTP-based structure.
That's why we use SVN instead. It's way more efficient to monitor source code flow within the project.

[Flaming Cobra]

..........Apache Subversion?

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On an unrelated subject, have you heard of Valve's Source Engine? I know DZ Composer has. Is that restricted to only FPS games or can more be done with it?

[Psygonis]

...............Yeaaaaah! \o/

[Flaming Cobra]

Can we get a video of the starfox team caramelldansen to pass the time?

[Brockenstein]

:confused: Well karamelldansen is sweedish... so you want to see a video of the SoL Team doing the Candy Dance?......???

[Flaming Cobra]

There's an English version. It's on YouTube and my iPod.

And what's the candy dance?


So come on move your hips sing ooo a a aa
look at youtube clips do it la la la
you and me
can sing this melody

so
come
and

dance to the beat
wave your hands together
come feel the heat
forever and forever
listen and learn
it is time for prancing
now we are here with caramell dancing!


this candy dance? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYmUhA-aWnU

[Scourge of Ages]

Auuuuuuuuuuuugh! English version sucks so bad. Much better when you can't understand the lyrics.

Here, purge the bad memories with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5CeY2u5yTs&playnext=1&list=PL0C6A7344FBB134A8

[Flaming Cobra]

I have to disagree. I dislike the version where you can't understand the lyrics.

But It's all personal preference

[Falco314]

I just dislike the song itself

[Brockenstein]

karamell = Candy
dansen = dance
karamelldansen = Candy Dance

This is completely off topic,

Can we get a video of the starfox team caramelldansen to pass the time?

I think Scourge of Ages fullfilled your request. Please make the following posts be relevant to Shadows of Lylat.

[Flaming Cobra]

Is there going to be a sh'mup arcade game inside the great fox kind of like The Lost Viking in StarCraft II?

[Scourge of Ages]

If by "arcade game" you mean missions with top-down shooty gameplay, and by "Inside the Great Fox" you mean from the mainhall for the game, then yes, the possibility does exist. It is unlikely that it would be included in the official release however.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=68047.0 annnnd
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=77042.0

[Falco314]

If by "arcade game" you mean missions with top-down shooty gameplay, and by "Inside the Great Fox" you mean from the mainhall for the game, then yes, the possibility does exist. It is unlikely that it would be included in the official release however.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=68047.0 annnnd
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=77042.0

Is it even possible to finish the TDS mission?

[Flaming Cobra]

If by "arcade game" you mean missions with top-down shooty gameplay, and by "Inside the Great Fox" you mean from the mainhall for the game, then yes, the possibility does exist. It is unlikely that it would be included in the official release however.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=68047.0 annnnd
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=77042.0
Yes. Exactly like that. If by you mean in the main hall there's an arcade machine sitting in a corner and you can click it. Not from the campaign room.

But instead of being like TDS it's pixel art. Kind of like gradius. Except for up and down. Ok maybe more like......... AERO FIGHTERS.