I'll have to look up the font. Yes Fenris447 you gave it to me. It's good to see you to karajorma. I know their really ugly. With the frist one on the entrence link I tryed to make it look more real, didn't work like I had hoped. I need to find a realy good link on how to make things look matallic. The second one was the base for the entrence file. I'll work on getting a better image.